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T O P I C R E V I E WSunAscendantIn my (uninformed) opinion, just going off of this particular Arabic Part name, it seems like the Arabic Part Of HONOR & NOBILITY would be relevant to Prince William rather than a NON "honorable & nobile" person such as myself lol. How does this this specific Arabic Part function in a normal person's day to day life, OR is it like the Arabic Part Of Death in that it's only activated once in your life? The DAY BIRTHS calculation is: **Ascendant+19 Aries-Sun**The NIGHT BIRTHS calculation is: **Ascendant+3 Taurus-Moon***My second question is whether or not my Venus being at EXACTLY 19 degrees 0 Aries and my sun at almost exactly 3 degrees Taurus 0 (my sun is at 2 degrees Taurus 49 minutes, just a mere 11 minutes away from 3 degrees Taurus 0 minutes) have any significance. I read somewhere that 19 Aries is apparently the sun exaltation point (whatever that means), but idk the significance of using 3 Taurus in an Arabic Part calculation or even 19 Aries for that matter. What do these specific degrees represent?lalalindayes, the Sun is exalted @ 19* Aries and theMoon is exalted @ 3* Taurus.I think the first part of your question Honor and Nobility is more if you exhibit those traits rather than someone who should be royalty. What do you think?------------------A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step...Lao TzuSunAscendant quote:Originally posted by lalalinda:yes, the Sun is exalted @ 19* Aries and theMoon is exalted @ 3* Taurus.I think the first part of your question Honor and Nobility is more if you exhibit those traits rather than someone who should be royalty. What do you think?I think I do exhibit those traits.Wait ok since the sun is exalted at 19 degrees 0 minutes Aries and my Venus is there and since moon is exalted at 3 Taurus and my sun is 2 degrees 49 minutes Taurus, what significance does that hold for me? My Mars at 19 Pisces 51 happens to exactly semisextile my 19 Aries 0 Venus too.mirage29There are books you can purchase and read/study to get information about these.I haven't (yet). All I have been able to do is to observe my own chart so far, on this. In GENERAL, this is how I've found my approach took shape, over the handful of years of my involvement with astrology, in general. (Wouldn't it be cool to have a mentor??? ..)So!!!, Have you ever watched this particular tv game show?The contestants have a list of broad categories to choose... They don't know what bent will be required to produce the list of words that will carry the conversation.EXAMPLE: (topic) Snoop Dogg's Hot Mess - $100K Pyramid TV Show round [0:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiW2RsztUbM {my random choice.... just to show you the game}(topic) 25,000 Pyramid round (1982) [1:49] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbigHWUOZF0 When you think about the Category, 'Honor & Nobility', you might list 'people who have this' (and I note that you mentioned Prince William), or you can introduce into your thoughts the 'places of', or 'these qualities are required within a certain framework of whatever would touch or activate this house cusp issue' ... If you're using the astro com list (if that's where you got yours from), look at how different degrees are listed under each set of House Issues. ... There are overlaps there-- repetitions. One of the things I've done, is to pencil-in the month-day that the Sun reaches whatever point is being stimulated. Look for where this might be occurring in the other houses too (same degree, different label or meaning).You've GOT to be broader and much more loose and general about things concerning these degrees and issues. You'll notice after years, as you go through your life, you will amass information and Experiences as you go along. Just be 'aware' of what is there in the chart, and 'what' you are Experiencing... Take either written notes, OR just hold-space with what goes on with you, with your friends parents, with things in Society in general. Not every single thing applies to you, personally. Sometimes you'll notice events out-in-the-world concerning this 'for' yourself. Sometimes you're just aware of hearing words concerning the issues, but it didn't touch your life in any other way than just 'hearing' or reading. Noticing. It's about noticing things, being aware of your world generally.... WHILE you are processing the world 'internally'....It's just spooky how it relates. And it takes a lot of observation and time time time before you really get the 'grok' kind of Understanding of this material.... Haha, astrology is grokked, not just in keywords for the head (that's like bubblegum for the brrrrrain!!)... But you use your full intelligence (after you get used to the language) in order to be discerning of what's going on. How it ALL fits together... You have to swallow it --- WHOLE!!!! *lightning* mwaahhh hahahahahah It's a Mad thing, yes, I tell you! Astrology. It's Simply~MADDDD, and Wonderful.... And can lead you to Crazy Blissful States, and!!!! *Insanity*... *sound of padlocks*Laughing. Do you think I'm getting ready for Halloween or something? ... Have Great Fun --- Most of all. Have more Joy in your life!!! Astrology is there to advise, and you are the Master and Admiral of Your Beautiful Ship. It should NOT to Command your life... Let it Grace your life... skimming the waters, navigating open seas, and through the tight-places, straits. Hold the reins of strings of aspects, and handle the wheel (nautical, and natal)--- but, not tooo tightly with your head. You've got to be in contact and connection with your Heart and your Soul.. and body. Your head is like that early computer-programmer saying-- 'garbage in, garbage out'... It can spin data for EVER!!!, while you don't take care of yourself, and your affairs in this world. Data gathering, can be a vortex, where you approach the Beauty of that Singularity with never reaching the center... It's beguiling, Beautiful.For me, it's God's Gift, God's toy.... But don't forget the ToyMaker. There's MORE... "... Where never lark, or even eagle flew —And, while with silent, lifting mind I've trodThe high untrespassed sanctity of space,– Put out my hand, and touched the face of God."-- John Gillespie Magee, Jr. A Gemini.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gillespie_Magee,_Jr. Smell the Roses on that Path of Life... Get up there in your crow's nest, and smell the salt air, and see those broad Horizons. *announcer voice* Space! The Final Frontier... haha (Star Trek Anniversary was yesterday??) ... Dream.Life is Adventure... (music) 'Warriors and Knights', CODE OF CHIVALRY - Honor, Nobility (David Belskis producer, instrumental, text of Code on video) [1:02] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm-7Taj6b5k (music) Up Where We Belong [3:59] (Joe Cocker, Jennifer Warnes; song from movie, An Officer & A Gentleman 1982) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95QoDc_obN8 SunAscendant quote:Originally posted by mirage29:There are books you can purchase and read/study to get information about these.I haven't (yet). All I have been able to do is to observe my own chart so far, on this. In GENERAL, this is how I've found my approach took shape, over the handful of years of my involvement with astrology, in general. (Wouldn't it be cool to have a mentor??? ..)So!!!, Have you ever watched this particular tv game show?The contestants have a list of broad categories to choose... They don't know what bent will be required to produce the list of words that will carry the conversation.EXAMPLE: (topic) Snoop Dogg's Hot Mess - $100K Pyramid TV Show round [0:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiW2RsztUbM {my random choice.... just to show you the game}(topic) 25,000 Pyramid round (1982) [1:49] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbigHWUOZF0 When you think about the Category, 'Honor & Nobility', you might list 'people who have this' (and I note that you mentioned Prince William), or you can introduce into your thoughts the 'places of', or 'these qualities are required within a certain framework of whatever would touch or activate this house cusp issue' ... If you're using the astro com list (if that's where you got yours from), look at how different degrees are listed under each set of House Issues. ... There are overlaps there-- repetitions. One of the things I've done, is to pencil-in the month-day that the Sun reaches whatever point is being stimulated. Look for where this might be occurring in the other houses too (same degree, different label or meaning).You've GOT to be broader and much more loose and general about things concerning these degrees and issues. You'll notice after years, as you go through your life, you will amass information and Experiences as you go along. Just be 'aware' of what is there in the chart, and 'what' you are Experiencing... Take either written notes, OR just hold-space with what goes on with you, with your friends parents, with things in Society in general. Not every single thing applies to you, personally. Sometimes you'll notice events out-in-the-world concerning this 'for' yourself. Sometimes you're just aware of hearing words concerning the issues, but it didn't touch your life in any other way than just 'hearing' or reading. Noticing. It's about noticing things, being aware of your world generally.... WHILE you are processing the world 'internally'....It's just spooky how it relates. And it takes a lot of observation and time time time before you really get the 'grok' kind of Understanding of this material.... Haha, astrology is grokked, not just in keywords for the head (that's like bubblegum for the brrrrrain!!)... But you use your full intelligence (after you get used to the language) in order to be discerning of what's going on. How it ALL fits together... You have to swallow it --- WHOLE!!!! *lightning* mwaahhh hahahahahah It's a Mad thing, yes, I tell you! Astrology. It's Simply~MADDDD, and Wonderful.... And can lead you to Crazy Blissful States, and!!!! *Insanity*... *sound of padlocks*Laughing. Do you think I'm getting ready for Halloween or something? ... Have Great Fun --- Most of all. Have more Joy in your life!!! Astrology is there to advise, and you are the Master and Admiral of Your Beautiful Ship. It should NOT to Command your life... Let it Grace your life... skimming the waters, navigating open seas, and through the tight-places, straits. Hold the reins of strings of aspects, and handle the wheel (nautical, and natal)--- but, not tooo tightly with your head. You've got to be in contact and connection with your Heart and your Soul.. and body. Your head is like that early computer-programmer saying-- 'garbage in, garbage out'... It can spin data for EVER!!!, while you don't take care of yourself, and your affairs in this world. Data gathering, can be a vortex, where you approach the Beauty of that Singularity with never reaching the center... It's beguiling, Beautiful.For me, it's God's Gift, God's toy.... But don't forget the ToyMaker. There's MORE... "... Where never lark, or even eagle flew —And, while with silent, lifting mind I've trodThe high untrespassed sanctity of space,– Put out my hand, and touched the face of God."-- John Gillespie Magee, Jr. A Gemini.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gillespie_Magee,_Jr. Smell the Roses on that Path of Life... Get up there in your crow's nest, and smell the salt air, and see those broad Horizons. *announcer voice* Space! The Final Frontier... haha (Star Trek Anniversary was yesterday??) ... Dream.Life is Adventure... (music) 'Warriors and Knights', CODE OF CHIVALRY - Honor, Nobility (David Belskis producer, instrumental, text of Code on video) [1:02] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm-7Taj6b5k (music) Up Where We Belong [3:59] (Joe Cocker, Jennifer Warnes; song from movie, An Officer & A Gentleman 1982) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95QoDc_obN8 I like your upbeat personality. Do you have a Sag moon lol? I will look into books about the Arabic Parts. I'm very interested in this particular one I posted about mirage29Laughing!! Thanks, SunAscendant....Actually, you're partially Correct because my Progressed Moon is now half-way through Sagittarius. My progressed MC is Saggi too now. (Have a Sag Asc, Gemini Sun H6taurus, Gemini Mercury H7, Venus Taurus 5th).My Progressed Chart has been sooo Alive, with Fire! ... I'm morphing into a LEO. All that mayne, yet a timidity!!! haha, sllllooowyyyyyy, slllooowwwllyyyyy.One of my 10 House Themes has 3.26' Taurus (in my 5th) there with Noble Births. I look down the list, and it's actually quite cool.Thanks for saying you like my Humor!!! Yes, some days, I amuse even my own self with it... sheesh!arrrgghghghghh, right now. Things are rough?, yet exciting, at the same time.I pray things go all well with the Noble-Thee, and your Life's Track! Thanks for responding... And I'll look forward to reading more of your posts. haha, My Progressed Moon Sag is ON my natal Camelot Sag, H1.Oh yes, I'm a Sag Ascendant, with intercepted 9th and 3rd. Sometimes on general forecasts, I have to juggle information available. My 10th House is 2.30 Libra. .... Here comes transiting Jupiter!! Lord, Help!!! Has been and will be making exciting series of quintiles to placements in my natal, PLUS to itself natally, with Jupiter Cancer 27+ in H8. I get worried, and analyze things profusely.... Virgo Moon 24.56 H(9). Have a cradle aspect in later degrees, even an envelope if you include nodes. Letter from God!! ..... ~oy!! is what I have to say. I need to materialize some people in my life.Anyways, I am cheered by your own enthusiasm for Astrology and seems like you're trying to dive deep.Arabic parts are Cool and I love Fixed Stars, as well. Wishing Much Love to you, a Great Prosperity. May you be Rich (inner and outer) as a King and Noble.Your Night Birth Calculation connects with my Noble Births! *curtsies*
The DAY BIRTHS calculation is: **Ascendant+19 Aries-Sun**
The NIGHT BIRTHS calculation is: **Ascendant+3 Taurus-Moon**
*My second question is whether or not my Venus being at EXACTLY 19 degrees 0 Aries and my sun at almost exactly 3 degrees Taurus 0 (my sun is at 2 degrees Taurus 49 minutes, just a mere 11 minutes away from 3 degrees Taurus 0 minutes) have any significance. I read somewhere that 19 Aries is apparently the sun exaltation point (whatever that means), but idk the significance of using 3 Taurus in an Arabic Part calculation or even 19 Aries for that matter. What do these specific degrees represent?
I think the first part of your question Honor and Nobility is more if you exhibit those traits rather than someone who should be royalty. What do you think?
------------------A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step...Lao Tzu
quote:Originally posted by lalalinda:yes, the Sun is exalted @ 19* Aries and theMoon is exalted @ 3* Taurus.I think the first part of your question Honor and Nobility is more if you exhibit those traits rather than someone who should be royalty. What do you think?
I think I do exhibit those traits.
Wait ok since the sun is exalted at 19 degrees 0 minutes Aries and my Venus is there and since moon is exalted at 3 Taurus and my sun is 2 degrees 49 minutes Taurus, what significance does that hold for me? My Mars at 19 Pisces 51 happens to exactly semisextile my 19 Aries 0 Venus too.
I haven't (yet). All I have been able to do is to observe my own chart so far, on this. In GENERAL, this is how I've found my approach took shape, over the handful of years of my involvement with astrology, in general. (Wouldn't it be cool to have a mentor??? ..)
So!!!, Have you ever watched this particular tv game show?
The contestants have a list of broad categories to choose... They don't know what bent will be required to produce the list of words that will carry the conversation.
EXAMPLE:
(topic) Snoop Dogg's Hot Mess - $100K Pyramid TV Show round [0:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiW2RsztUbM
{my random choice.... just to show you the game}(topic) 25,000 Pyramid round (1982) [1:49] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbigHWUOZF0
When you think about the Category, 'Honor & Nobility', you might list 'people who have this' (and I note that you mentioned Prince William), or you can introduce into your thoughts the 'places of', or 'these qualities are required within a certain framework of whatever would touch or activate this house cusp issue' ...
If you're using the astro com list (if that's where you got yours from), look at how different degrees are listed under each set of House Issues. ... There are overlaps there-- repetitions.
One of the things I've done, is to pencil-in the month-day that the Sun reaches whatever point is being stimulated. Look for where this might be occurring in the other houses too (same degree, different label or meaning).
You've GOT to be broader and much more loose and general about things concerning these degrees and issues.
You'll notice after years, as you go through your life, you will amass information and Experiences as you go along. Just be 'aware' of what is there in the chart, and 'what' you are Experiencing... Take either written notes, OR just hold-space with what goes on with you, with your friends parents, with things in Society in general. Not every single thing applies to you, personally. Sometimes you'll notice events out-in-the-world concerning this 'for' yourself. Sometimes you're just aware of hearing words concerning the issues, but it didn't touch your life in any other way than just 'hearing' or reading. Noticing. It's about noticing things, being aware of your world generally.... WHILE you are processing the world 'internally'....
It's just spooky how it relates. And it takes a lot of observation and time time time before you really get the 'grok' kind of Understanding of this material....
Haha, astrology is grokked, not just in keywords for the head (that's like bubblegum for the brrrrrain!!)... But you use your full intelligence (after you get used to the language) in order to be discerning of what's going on. How it ALL fits together... You have to swallow it --- WHOLE!!!! *lightning* mwaahhh hahahahahah
It's a Mad thing, yes, I tell you! Astrology. It's Simply~MADDDD, and Wonderful.... And can lead you to Crazy Blissful States, and!!!! *Insanity*... *sound of padlocks*
Laughing. Do you think I'm getting ready for Halloween or something? ...
Have Great Fun --- Most of all. Have more Joy in your life!!!
Astrology is there to advise, and you are the Master and Admiral of Your Beautiful Ship. It should NOT to Command your life... Let it Grace your life... skimming the waters, navigating open seas, and through the tight-places, straits.
Hold the reins of strings of aspects, and handle the wheel (nautical, and natal)--- but, not tooo tightly with your head. You've got to be in contact and connection with your Heart and your Soul.. and body. Your head is like that early computer-programmer saying-- 'garbage in, garbage out'... It can spin data for EVER!!!, while you don't take care of yourself, and your affairs in this world. Data gathering, can be a vortex, where you approach the Beauty of that Singularity with never reaching the center... It's beguiling, Beautiful.
For me, it's God's Gift, God's toy.... But don't forget the ToyMaker. There's MORE...
"... Where never lark, or even eagle flew —And, while with silent, lifting mind I've trodThe high untrespassed sanctity of space,– Put out my hand, and touched the face of God."-- John Gillespie Magee, Jr. A Gemini.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gillespie_Magee,_Jr.
Smell the Roses on that Path of Life...
Get up there in your crow's nest, and smell the salt air, and see those broad Horizons. *announcer voice* Space! The Final Frontier... haha (Star Trek Anniversary was yesterday??) ... Dream.
Life is Adventure...
(music) 'Warriors and Knights', CODE OF CHIVALRY - Honor, Nobility (David Belskis producer, instrumental, text of Code on video) [1:02] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm-7Taj6b5k
(music) Up Where We Belong [3:59] (Joe Cocker, Jennifer Warnes; song from movie, An Officer & A Gentleman 1982) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95QoDc_obN8
quote:Originally posted by mirage29:There are books you can purchase and read/study to get information about these.I haven't (yet). All I have been able to do is to observe my own chart so far, on this. In GENERAL, this is how I've found my approach took shape, over the handful of years of my involvement with astrology, in general. (Wouldn't it be cool to have a mentor??? ..)So!!!, Have you ever watched this particular tv game show?The contestants have a list of broad categories to choose... They don't know what bent will be required to produce the list of words that will carry the conversation.EXAMPLE: (topic) Snoop Dogg's Hot Mess - $100K Pyramid TV Show round [0:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiW2RsztUbM {my random choice.... just to show you the game}(topic) 25,000 Pyramid round (1982) [1:49] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbigHWUOZF0 When you think about the Category, 'Honor & Nobility', you might list 'people who have this' (and I note that you mentioned Prince William), or you can introduce into your thoughts the 'places of', or 'these qualities are required within a certain framework of whatever would touch or activate this house cusp issue' ... If you're using the astro com list (if that's where you got yours from), look at how different degrees are listed under each set of House Issues. ... There are overlaps there-- repetitions. One of the things I've done, is to pencil-in the month-day that the Sun reaches whatever point is being stimulated. Look for where this might be occurring in the other houses too (same degree, different label or meaning).You've GOT to be broader and much more loose and general about things concerning these degrees and issues. You'll notice after years, as you go through your life, you will amass information and Experiences as you go along. Just be 'aware' of what is there in the chart, and 'what' you are Experiencing... Take either written notes, OR just hold-space with what goes on with you, with your friends parents, with things in Society in general. Not every single thing applies to you, personally. Sometimes you'll notice events out-in-the-world concerning this 'for' yourself. Sometimes you're just aware of hearing words concerning the issues, but it didn't touch your life in any other way than just 'hearing' or reading. Noticing. It's about noticing things, being aware of your world generally.... WHILE you are processing the world 'internally'....It's just spooky how it relates. And it takes a lot of observation and time time time before you really get the 'grok' kind of Understanding of this material.... Haha, astrology is grokked, not just in keywords for the head (that's like bubblegum for the brrrrrain!!)... But you use your full intelligence (after you get used to the language) in order to be discerning of what's going on. How it ALL fits together... You have to swallow it --- WHOLE!!!! *lightning* mwaahhh hahahahahah It's a Mad thing, yes, I tell you! Astrology. It's Simply~MADDDD, and Wonderful.... And can lead you to Crazy Blissful States, and!!!! *Insanity*... *sound of padlocks*Laughing. Do you think I'm getting ready for Halloween or something? ... Have Great Fun --- Most of all. Have more Joy in your life!!! Astrology is there to advise, and you are the Master and Admiral of Your Beautiful Ship. It should NOT to Command your life... Let it Grace your life... skimming the waters, navigating open seas, and through the tight-places, straits. Hold the reins of strings of aspects, and handle the wheel (nautical, and natal)--- but, not tooo tightly with your head. You've got to be in contact and connection with your Heart and your Soul.. and body. Your head is like that early computer-programmer saying-- 'garbage in, garbage out'... It can spin data for EVER!!!, while you don't take care of yourself, and your affairs in this world. Data gathering, can be a vortex, where you approach the Beauty of that Singularity with never reaching the center... It's beguiling, Beautiful.For me, it's God's Gift, God's toy.... But don't forget the ToyMaker. There's MORE... "... Where never lark, or even eagle flew —And, while with silent, lifting mind I've trodThe high untrespassed sanctity of space,– Put out my hand, and touched the face of God."-- John Gillespie Magee, Jr. A Gemini.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gillespie_Magee,_Jr. Smell the Roses on that Path of Life... Get up there in your crow's nest, and smell the salt air, and see those broad Horizons. *announcer voice* Space! The Final Frontier... haha (Star Trek Anniversary was yesterday??) ... Dream.Life is Adventure... (music) 'Warriors and Knights', CODE OF CHIVALRY - Honor, Nobility (David Belskis producer, instrumental, text of Code on video) [1:02] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm-7Taj6b5k (music) Up Where We Belong [3:59] (Joe Cocker, Jennifer Warnes; song from movie, An Officer & A Gentleman 1982) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95QoDc_obN8
I like your upbeat personality. Do you have a Sag moon lol? I will look into books about the Arabic Parts. I'm very interested in this particular one I posted about
Actually, you're partially Correct because my Progressed Moon is now half-way through Sagittarius.
My progressed MC is Saggi too now. (Have a Sag Asc, Gemini Sun H6taurus, Gemini Mercury H7, Venus Taurus 5th).
My Progressed Chart has been sooo Alive, with Fire! ... I'm morphing into a LEO. All that mayne, yet a timidity!!! haha, sllllooowyyyyyy, slllooowwwllyyyyy.
One of my 10 House Themes has 3.26' Taurus (in my 5th) there with Noble Births. I look down the list, and it's actually quite cool.
Thanks for saying you like my Humor!!! Yes, some days, I amuse even my own self with it... sheesh!
arrrgghghghghh, right now. Things are rough?, yet exciting, at the same time.
I pray things go all well with the Noble-Thee, and your Life's Track!
Thanks for responding... And I'll look forward to reading more of your posts.
haha, My Progressed Moon Sag is ON my natal Camelot Sag, H1.
Oh yes, I'm a Sag Ascendant, with intercepted 9th and 3rd. Sometimes on general forecasts, I have to juggle information available.
My 10th House is 2.30 Libra. .... Here comes transiting Jupiter!! Lord, Help!!! Has been and will be making exciting series of quintiles to placements in my natal, PLUS to itself natally, with Jupiter Cancer 27+ in H8.
I get worried, and analyze things profusely.... Virgo Moon 24.56 H(9).
Have a cradle aspect in later degrees, even an envelope if you include nodes. Letter from God!! ..... ~oy!! is what I have to say. I need to materialize some people in my life.
Anyways, I am cheered by your own enthusiasm for Astrology and seems like you're trying to dive deep.
Arabic parts are Cool and I love Fixed Stars, as well.
Wishing Much Love to you, a Great Prosperity. May you be Rich (inner and outer) as a King and Noble.
Your Night Birth Calculation connects with my Noble Births! *curtsies*
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